Jonathan's Lecture Hall
Oct. 16, 2006
Lecture 1, Sound Bite 4

Posted in Lecture 1: Love, the Sum of all Virtue

And by the apostle's mentioning so many and so high things, and then saying of them all that they profited nothing without charity, we may justly conclude, that there is nothing at all that avails anything without it. Let a man have what he will, and do what he will, it signifies nothing without charity, which surely implies that charity is the great thing, and that everything which has not charity in some way contained or implied in it is nothing, and that this charity is the life and soul of all religion, without which all things that wear the name of virtues are empty and vain.

In speaking to this doctrine, I would first notice the nature of this divine love, and then show the truth of the doctrine respecting it. And

I. I would speak of the nature of a truly Christian love. and here I would observe

    1. That all true Christian love is one and the same in its principle. It may be various in its forms and objects, and may be exercised either toward God or men, but it is the same principle in the heart that is the foundation of every exercise of a truly Christian love, whatever may be its object. It is not with the holy love in the heart of the Christian, as it is with the love of other men. Their love toward different objects, may be from different principles and motives, and with different views; but a truly Christian love is different from this. It is one as to its principle, whatever the object about which it is exercised; it is from the same spring or fountain in the heart, though it may flow out in different channels and diverse directions, and therefore it is all fitly comprehended in the one name of charity, as in the text.



Cat's Q & A:

1. "...we may justly conclude, that there is nothing at all that avails anything without it." It could be argued that this is Christian snobbery. What about AIDS relief in Africa, humanitarian projects in the Middle East, or grassroots activism in North America?

My response to this is to consider where these things sprang from, historically. The answer is religion. Modern humanitarian activism had its birth in the Victorian era, when the British Empire was the main vehicle for the spread of the Gospel. The path that leads to modern secular humanitarianism can be clarified by starting with conservative churches and slowly moving left-of-center through the denominations; for instance, the United Church of Canada retains strong humanitarian values, but is gutted of anything resembling Biblical theology. Secular humanism is what happens when a Christian culture decides to try being good without Christ. Even today, it is statistically those with a Christian faith of some sort who are the most dedicated humanitarians in the 10-40 Window, Africa and elsewhere.

2. "It is not with the holy love of the Christian, as it is with other men." Have you ever seen this contrasted clearly in a Christian's dealings with a non-Christian?

Yep. We just got to see it again on the weekend, as the family tried to deal with an unapologetically unsaved, unsocial in-law. The relative she is married to does his best to deal with his wife in a kind and controlled fashion. But her notions of love do not include respect, compromise or consideration for others. Not only that, when he gives in for the sake of grace (basically to avoid an ugly blowout in front of the family), she assumes she is in control of the relationship and has the right to dictate to him even further. In her world, love is something to be presumed upon rather than honoured.

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Oct. 17, 2006 - Christian attitudes

Posted by Bob in SK


“1. "...we may justly conclude, that there is nothing at all that avails anything without it." It could be argued that this is Christian snobbery. What about AIDS relief in Africa, humanitarian projects in the Middle East, or grassroots activism in North America?”…

…“My response to this is to consider where these things sprang from, historically. The answer is religion. …Secular humanism is what happens when a Christian culture decides to try being good without Christ.”…

Exactly! If the history behind humanitarian efforts would be recognized, there would hopefully be a better understanding of the benefits of Christianity. However most people feel good about helping the less fortunate without a second thought as to why this might be the case. Secular humanism also engages the masses for support through guilt of their own affluent lifestyle in contrast to the impoverished ones it shows of other nations. I’m not saying that this funding should be returned to the giver based on the method in which it was gained, but I am saying that with the erosion of Christian values and “charity” (can be used in two definitions here) towards others we must use manipulative measures to help the less fortunate. If there was a mass return to true Christianity and “charity”, we would find that those less fortunate would suffer far less (hey I think I blogged about a utopian society being the one with Christ’s moralities and values a while back). This may indeed be construed as “Christian Snobbery”, but the fact remains that it was started as a good thing done with good intentions because of a belief in God’s Word.


“2. "It is not with the holy love of the Christian, as it is with other men." Have you ever seen this contrasted clearly in a Christian's dealings with a non-Christian?”

I see this attitude all the time. This is most apparent in those that have either grown up in Christian homes, or long time Christians who believe themselves more advanced than others. I think we often tend to forget that as Christians it is not all about acceptance, encouragement, and tolerance, but that we are to admonish and correct others as well. This is a fine line to walk with those that don’t believe in the same principals as the Christian, but with courtesy, respect, the right attitude and enough patience this can be accomplished. For example how much of a disservice would we be doing Homosexuals if we just accepted their lifestyles without presenting the Lord’s case against it? Do we help them understand their errors and come back to God by just ignoring their immorality? Absolutely not! At the same time if we admonish and judge them with an attacking attitude we again do them a disservice by sending them away from God, and even further we do a disservice to God by driving a wedge where we should be creating relationships to foster positive change. What it comes down to is two things; 1st we have to balance our approaches with an attitude of “charity” (love) towards those we are trying to impact thereby creating relationships which foster change, and 2nd we have to understand that even though we know the Lord we are still sinners and no better than anyone else and this should come out in our dealings with non believers. Christians aren’t supposed to flout their salvation over others, but wish to extend it to them by presenting the grace of the Gospel to them.


Longwinded yet again.
Bob


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Oct. 18, 2006 - Lecture 1, Sound Bite 4

Posted by happyhearts


1. "...we may justly conclude, that there is nothing at all that avails anything without it." It could be argued that this is Christian snobbery. What about AIDS relief in Africa, humanitarian projects in the Middle East, or grassroots activism in North America?

I think that these things encompass the beginnings of charity/love for others and while it's not fully formed as such, I think there's room for growth. Some Christians (including myself at times) do come across as having Christian snobbery, unfortunately. I guess I see it that it's God's place to discern the intents of the hearts of people doing these good deeds and so the concern to me should be only MY motives and not those of others. It's not my place but His. So, while I might "know" that these things may avail nothing or little for some people, I need to let that go. I can't change them, only pray that they have or will develop true Christian charity as they do good works.

2. "It is not with the holy love of the Christian, as it is with other men." Have you ever seen this contrasted clearly in a Christian's dealings with a non-Christian?

Yes, I've seen more patience and long-suffering, etc from Christians toward non-Christians in a few instances though in general, I don't think that it's prevalent enough in the right ways. What I tend to see more is compromise without a solid standpoint which makes it difficult for others to see these as Christian qualities. I have to admit that I'm probably quite weak in my witness to non-Christians because although I do strive to have all those fruits of the Spirit active, I'm not sure that my stand clearly shows what side I'm on. It probably comes across as simply weak-willed.


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